The argument developed by Descartes differs from Anselm’s in a number of
respects. He avoids the term ‘great’ (and notes the fact in the course of his
argument). Instead he uses the concept ‘perfect’, so that God is described as
the ‘supremely perfect Being’. He also uses variations on the phrase ‘clearly
and distinctly’ in connection with his apprehension of the idea of God. [i]
If just because I can draw the idea of something from my
thought, it follows that all which I know clearly and distinctly as pertaining
to this object does really belong to it, may I not derive from this an argument
demonstrating the existence of God? It is certain that I no less find the idea
of God, that is to say, the idea of a supremely perfect Being, in me, than that
of any figure or number whatever it is; and I do not know any less clearly and
distinctly that an actual and eternal existence pertains to this nature than I
know that all that which I am able to demonstrate of some figure or number
truly pertains to the nature of this figure or number, and therefore, although
all that I concluded in the preceding Meditations were found to be false, the
existence of God would pass with me as at least as certain as I have ever held
the truths of mathematics to be.
To paraphrase: ‘If it follows that an idea in thought can be expressed, and
all I know clearly and distinctly about it,
is the case, then may I not use this as the basis of an argument to
prove the reality of God?’ He finds the idea of a ‘supremely perfect Being’ as
real within himself as ideas of geometric figures, and numbers. He does not
know any less clearly and distinctly that actual and eternal existence is a
property of the supreme perfect Being, than he knows all which he can
demonstrate in relation to geometrical figures or a number truly comprises the
properties of these. And were everything else in the preceding Meditations to
be found false, the reality of God would be as real for Descartes as he ever
held the truths of mathematics to be.
However clear and distinct is Descartes idea of a ‘supremely perfect
Being’, and that this idea can be expressed, it does not follow that it can be
used as the basis of an argument to prove the reality of God. To follow his
analogy, his knowledge of the properties of geometrical figures and numbers,
may be extensive and even comprehensive, but it does not follow that his
knowledge of these properties is complete. The properties of which he knows are
just that. It is obvious that it is easier to circumscribe the properties and
characteristics of geometrical figures and numbers than to have a clear and
distinct idea of the properties and nature of a ‘supremely perfect Being’. What
Descartes can have in his mind is a ‘notion’ of the properties and nature of such
a perfect Being. He might think that the reality of God, the existence of God
is at least as real as the truths of mathematics; this is a notion only, rather
than something which can be established.
This indeed is not at first manifest, since it would seem
to present some appearance of being a sophism. For being accustomed in all
other things to make a distinction between existence and essence, I easily
persuade myself that the existence can be separated from the essence of God,
and that we can thus conceive God as not actually existing. But, nevertheless,
when I think of it with more attention, I clearly see that existence can no
more be separated from the essence of God than can its having its three angles
equal to two right angles be separated from the essence of a rectilinear
triangle, or the idea of a mountain from the idea of a valley; and so there is
not any less repugnance to our conceiving a God (that is, a Being supremely
perfect) to whom existence is lacking (that is to say, to whom a certain perfection
is lacking), than to conceive of a mountain which has no valley.
Descartes defends himself against the possible charge that his argument is
sophistry. He can ordinarily distinguish between the existence and the essence
of something. And so he can easily persuade himself that the property
‘existence’ can be separated from the ‘essence’ of God. And thus that we can
conceive of God as not possessing the property of something which exists. This
however he says is the result of inattentive thinking, and more attention to
the question allows him to clearly see that the existence of God cannot be
separated from the essence of God any more than the properties of a
right-angled triangle can be separated from the essence of it. Or any more than
that the idea of a mountain can be separated from the idea of a valley. So the
repugnance of the idea of conceiving a supremely perfect Being without the
property of existence is no less than to conceive of a mountain without a
valley.
The problem here is the conception of existence as a form or mode of
perfection. In antiquity this equation would not have been made – rather the
nature and properties of divinity would have been drawn in contrast with those
of existence. There are many ways to express this difference – the secular
world has existence, the world of coming-to-be and passing-away has existence,
man has existence, the world of things and of representation has existence. The
Divine and the eternal did not have existence in the same way in the ancient
world. The world of reality was understood to be separate in essence from the
secular world; this separate reality was the realm of the divine, and so
existence would not be a property of the divine, even if the divine was (as it
generally was) considered to be completely real. This is not to say that the
divine could not manifest or act in the world of existence; but that existence
is a species of imperfection, with which the divine could be (and was)
contrasted. Descartes cannot mean that God is real in the sense of having a
presence in the material world. And it is curious that later he treated God as
if he was walled up in his own sphere. This was necessary to promote the idea
that one could do mathematics without reference to God, and without concern
that God would interfere with the purely mathematical workings of the
world.
But although I cannot really conceive of a God without
existence any more than a mountain without a valley, still from the fact that I
conceive of a mountain with a valley, it does not follow that there is such a
mountain in the world; similarly although I conceive of God as possessing
existence, it would seem that it does not follow that there is a God which
exists; for my thought does not impose any necessity upon things, and just as I
may imagine a winged horse, although no horse with wings exists, so I could
perhaps attribute existence to God, although no God existed.
Here, Descartes concedes that though he can conceive of the supreme perfect
Being as possessing existence, it does not necessarily follow that there is a
God which exists, since his thought ‘does not impose any necessity upon
things’. What he means by this is that the reality or otherwise or god is not
dependent on his understanding of the nature of God.’ So Descartes might be
attributing the property of existence to God, even if no God existed.
[End of extract]
Interesting. Could we combine Descartes' argument with Berkeley somehow? When I look outside my window, I necessarily see, or more precisely, conceive the idea of a tree. When I turn my thoughts to God, I necessarily conceive of a perfect or maximally great Being. I can no more prove that my idea of a tree corresponds to an objectively-existing tree than I can that my idea of a perfect God corresponds to an objectively-existing perfect God, but in both cases there is a kind of automatically given idea. Very interested in your thoughts. Thanks!
ReplyDeleteThe ontological argument is false. Just being able to conceive of a maximally great being (to use Plantinga's phrase) does not make it exist. Part of the problem is the contrast between 'real' and 'existent' in philosophy. Being real does not necessarily imply actual existence. I included a chapter on Berkeley in The Sacred History of Being to show that there were other ways to discuss the reality of divinity, other than the idea that the divine had to be objectively real (which is what existence implies). Like Berkeley, I distrust the notion that there is an objective reality outside our minds (though it is a persuasive illusion).
ReplyDeleteThis, and all other propositions for the existence of God, was debunked in the appendix to the excellent novel “36 arguments for the existence of God” by Rebecca Newberger Goldstein. Also Spinoza’s Deus-sive-Natura argument automatically overrides / debunks all the others.
ReplyDeleteYvonne, hi. We've had a discussion about this on Twitter, so you are clear that this article is part of an extensive *deconstruction* of the ontological argument, rather than an argument in favour of it. Best, TY
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